So with my “return” as its been coined (really its not at all – I’m just doing arena a little, but thanks for all the comments, you know you you are! Not that anyone ever reads this blog :P) I thought I’d say my thoughts on arena.
When we restarted arena we had the option of using the old Furious season “My monkey your face” team since my mage was saving it, however I thought it would be more suiting to use “Return of Monkey Face”, Trunks laughed, then agreed and without further delay “Return of Monkey Face” was born.
So basically, its fun doing it with a friend, but its not a great PvP feature, just as I’ve always thought. Doing arena doesn’t make you a pro, like most arena people think it does. Soon I’ll be that magical 2k rating which makes me a God among mere mortals, it won’t of been hard to get, I’ll of got it massively undergeared against retards who farmed full wrath a long time ago, but I will be a God I tell thee!
So at the moment Trunks has only boosted me to 1810 rating, however this is only a few hours work and I’m undergeared to hell. Thanks to Trunks having gear, at about a 1k team rating we were facing 2k+ rated teams… and winning.
Certain comps give us major problems, especially drain teams like aff/tree or aff/disc. Some teams we thought would give us troubles don’t. Arms warriors are on the whole as stupid as ever although they all seem to of found their retaliation button at the start of most games now, and most DKs aren’t worth mentioning, though can you stop trying to kite me with snares and dps me with just death coil – it doesn’t work. Except the unholy/tree team we farmed in the end, they are worth a mention but purely because they were terribad once put under constant pressure on the DK with us ignoring the tree except for mana burns.
We’ve learned what I said all along – I can play offensive but not defensive and I can’t peel for shit. We already knew I sucked and this was how it would go down 😛
So all in all, arena != (thats not equal for those who don’t know) skill. Comp != guaranteed win, but it helps make up for the lack of skill in most teams. Gear != comp != skill. Yeah gear helps, its lost us a few games, but on the whole we can overcome a lot of full wrath or wrath/high pve teams.
For all you Frostmourne monkeys out there, that doesn’t save you all either. We faced a couple of particularly bad teams who must of thought Frostmourne would carry them. It didn’t. It does however fucking hurt!
We’ve stopped at 1810 rating for now as I need the points (which I get tomorrow) to get the off hand dagger, however having had to farm honor for the belt / boots / main hand and off hand, I’d like to mention something about battlegrounds.
So I farmed all my honor for the items solo. It was hell. Pure hell. Honestly, most of you ally out there if you ever read this: GET A FUCKING CLUE! You even got it in capitals to try and make it sink in. Seriously. Stop farming HKs, which you often fail at since you run into 6 horde. Play the ground for the objective, work as a team, stop being so damn pathetic!
We’ll continue the rating grind (yes, it is a grind no matter what you LOL ARENA IS FOR PROS ONLY! people think, its not hard to get) possibly on Wednesday, the gear won’t make that much of a difference but its nice to get it while I’m at the rating now than possibly slip because I’ve fallen asleep and forgot to apply poisons again.
There is also a possibility of me being in a 3s team, however that is looking extremely unlikely since Trunks promised his services to another couple of friends, the slut.
Most teams we face we are doing well against and most losses are close and we can pin down where we made a mistake or it was a simple gear issue / 2 retarded high dps focusing one down before we could do anything kind of thing, but we are having a laugh as we grind our way up some more.
In another post I might try and make some more comments on purely comps we face and the problems / easiness of them. I’ve also been asked to take some fraps of the matches (was the only reason I was doing arena) although that won’t be fun for people to watch, I’ll probably start recording some once we break 2k.
So first some background.
I have done PvP since about level 15 in WoW as a mage. My mage has always been my main. When I hit 60 I went elementalist and ran around in rank 8 blues / dungeon blues.
I had access to full tier 2+ after a while, but I always ran in that gear to keep it more “fair” in the fights – I don’t want to walk over people due to gear.
At 60 I was an elemental build mostly with a bias to fire. At 70 I was elemental for a little, but mostly deep fire. With the pre WotLK changes I quit PvP.
Any PvP I have done as a mage has been as fire in WotLK, but I mostly did PvP on my rogue.
I’m not a great player, but I’m also not terrible. I win more than I lose.
My rogue did BG play at 70, some arena (about 2-3 weeks) in Furious season (ended at 1961 rating due to boredom) and has recently been asked to make a comeback (in the same gear I left with) for Wrathful though again, only for a few weeks.
My mage has always been a world / bg character, it did some arena in season 1 and 2 and thats all.
I don’t like arena. It isn’t fun to me.
I also believe in what I coined “gentlemans PvP”. I don’t attack people because they are low hp. I don’t attack people because they have n mobs on them. I’ve been known to polymorph people, not for the opener but for the heal, then wand to start the fight.
For anyone who only attacks low hp players / players with mobs / only when they out number: you suck. End Of. Especially if you die / nearly die when you do any of these.
Now, for all you arena people out there… you need to realise you aren’t Gods because you got 2.2k+ rating.
Someone from my guild after killing some arena retard was told to “comeback when you break 2k.” Why should he? He destroyed you without a 2k+ rating, he doesn’t even play arena.
Arena is not the only type of PvP there is. Arena alone doesn’t make you a great PvP player.
Now thats not to say that arena makes you crap, or all arena people are crap – but the same goes for you people dissing BG players.
A lot of the arena people that are top now came from BG play. A lot of the old players don’t like arena so they don’t play it. Arena and BG are both valid forms of PvP and you play which you like or both. Or you play arena because its the only way to get gear, which is retarded.
Now I don’t know what the aim of this post is, maybe I’ll just take out my frustration with PvP before I quit (see http://blog.colincharlton.net/?p=5).
BG Vs Arena
So, the age old debate – pure BG players diss arena, pure arena players diss BG.
You people need to realise something: Both of these types of PvP offer different skillsets to each other. Both are just as good as each other, its just that arena got the rewards. BG play was around before arena. There are a lot of skilled BG players. There are a lot of skilled arena players. Some do both, some do one or the other.
That’s it. End of. Nothing else. Move along.
Like I said, I don’t enjoy arena, I also don’t enjoy chasing someone in circles around a pillar thinking they are skilled with 1.3k resilience. This is PvP – that being player Vs player, not player Vs pillar.
To me, arena is too composition based and not variable enough. If I go a faceroll comp, I get 2k with no effort. Its also stale. If I’m killing someone in world PvP or in a BG, there’s every chance something I’m not expecting will happen. Another player will show up, I’ll run into mobs, I’ll run off a cliff because I’m stupid. You name it, it can happen. In arena its 2/3/5 Vs 2/3/5, thats all, oh and the pillars.
What did Blizzard do to PvP?
In my opinion, Blizzard broke PvP, badly. They did this in a few ways:
There are other things that affected PvP, the random dungeon tool being one – I get why this tool was introduced, but no longer are there fights on the way to instances or summon stones, you just zone in.
I can’t go into everything, heck I can’t even remember half the things as I type.
How can they fix it?
Well, it appears Cataclysm is going some way towards this. Resilience is apparently gone, yay – I want to see how the resilience dependant players adapt to this! More specs are becoming viable in general – anyone who’s played a fire mage at the moment knows its not the easiest job in the world for PvP, though there are some exceptions to the rule.
Bringing back BG for the players to gear is also good, no more people running in welfare gear because they hate arena, no more arena having a silly advantage. It’ll be fun to see how the rated BGs go. All the arena people seem to think they’ll dominate this area. Personally I think it’ll be the pro players in general – the top arena players who can also BG and the BG teams that are actually decent on top, followed by the rest, basically like arena is now. If you can do arena and get high you stay there, if you do arena but suck you get OK ratings but never go anywhere.
More PvP friendly world zones. Stop making everywhere safe with guards. You broke LHC with guards. Tone them down! Wintergrasp also wasn’t really a success, was it.
I’ve completely lost my focus with this post, I have no idea where I was going or anything so I’ll post it in this state.
Warning: This post will probably be long, contain repetition and not be a good read.
Before I start, this isn’t a post about coding games, this is a post about playing them.
So I play games, well, I use to, I quit them recently. So why did I do this? Simply because gaming for me became about the person I was playing with, not the game I was playing. Lets do a brief history…
I started out my gaming career with FPS games, Quake 2 to be precise, oh how I loved Deathmatch! That was fine, I then moved to Counter-Strike in beta 5 and quit in beta 6.2, came back for v1 and quit about 2 weeks later. I came back again for Counter-Strike: Source for the beta, and quit again not long after retail launch.
Some Diablo, Diablo 2 and Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction and StarCraft later, I moved to Final Fantasy XI – it was great, a friend, Lee, starting playing it with me and another, Jeff, joined later on.
There were other games in between this, but nothing overly mentionable, it was the same kind of genre, FPS mostly. The height of my career being playing for a high end UK team which did some EU cups in CS:S. The team was all made of long standing friends having a laugh, we never meant to go anywhere, we were just good. I use to play on the top servers against the top players in other games too.
Then World of Warcraft came out. Jeff moved to WoW because his girlfriend played it, me and Lee decided to move over too. Jeffs girlfriend had already been playing a while, we didn’t start playing it straight from release, so she was already 60. We were all leveling up together (except the already 60 girlfriend) and having fun, but Jeff wanted to level faster than us to catch his girlfriend up and we ended up splitting up the leveling group and all went at our own pace. We eventually all ended up at 60, Lee stopped playing nearly the same time he hit 60 but me, Jeff and his girlfriend didn’t.
They went off to do PvE, they’d already joined a raiding guild while I was leveling, I hit 60 and went PvP until a spot for a mage opened up in his guild and I decided to try my hand at PvE. My trial was in crap gear, on Nefarian (BWL was the latest instance out), I had no idea what I was doing and I was in an elementalist spec because it was the most fun for PvP. My trial was a total success and I was accepted the same night. We ended up about the 6th best ally guild on our realm, Magtheridon EU.
Shortly after Naxxramas was released, my hardcore guild folded. However before it was released another friend had started playing. I was helping her out some with the early quests, we knew each other but weren’t in a relationship. Come level 55 we were in a relationship. I wasn’t playing my mage much, I’d decided to level a rogue alt – not with her for reasons beyond this post, but at the same pace. We ended up hitting 60 the same night with the help of friends from my guild and co-ordination on my part. Things were going great between us, we were gearing her up in instances ready for The Burning Crusades grind, the guild were helping still. In TBC she was to become one of our main tanks. We’d level together, gear together, etc. My game had changed at this point without me realising it. I was no longer playing the game because I enjoyed it, I was playing the game because my girlfriend also enjoyed it and it was another thing we could do together and have fun doing. My game became all about playing with her. Alts, instances, leveling, you name it – it wasn’t fun without her beside me.
The Burning Crusade gets released. All was going to plan. We were leveling together although at our own pace compared to the guild and we still had all the same aims. At 70 she was to become our main tank and we would triumph over all the content thrown at us together, with the help of the friends we’d made as we went – I’d known these people for a long time as I knew them from my hardcore days and in the end, she got to know them well too. We ended up taking an extended weekend holiday to go and see the main 4, Ruel, Calli, Khel and Mannon, who lived close to each other. So the day finally came, we were 70, we were raiding. It was great, totally amazing. Then we split up (again, for reasons beyond this post). I was obviously a wreck, but I kept playing WoW. It wasn’t the same, at all. This is when I first realised the game had changed for me. My mage was benched unless the guild needed it and my rogue got dusted off. It became my loner character, I left the guild on it so people couldn’t talk to me in general and I rolled it PvP. I hit 70, I was doing PvP, it was still crap.
I needed a change of scene in the game. I figured it was bad stigma with the realm after everything that had gone on, everything reminded me of her. My server got free migration to another realm, some ingame friends (not from the guild) were on about starting up a hardcore PvE guild and were thinking of moving to another server. The server they were thinking of moving to was on the free migration list and I already knew someone who had moved there, so I decided I’d move regardless and off I went. The guild never happened so I ended up playing solo again. I was on a new realm, new faces, it seemed different and like I could enjoy the game again. I made some new friends, and took the mage (and rogue a bit) to the PvP scene again. This was going well, I was enjoying it all again, yay!
Fast forward a whole lot of time and stuff going on that isn’t interesting and Wrath of the Lich King comes out. I’m 80, my rogues 80, a couple more characters were 80, or maybe it was just my warrior at that point. I’d totally quit PvE still, only helping my guild out if they needed the numbers which wasn’t very often. Then comes Icecrown Citadel.
More uninteresting or irrelevant story later, I end up with my latest (and since the 29th of August, now ex) girlfriend. I was enjoying the game still, but it was again for someone else. This time I was wiser though and I knew it had happened. We went PvE for a little time, but it wasn’t enjoyable for us. We either wanted more from the guild than it could give us or nothing. We opted for nothing. A friend I’d known since not long after moving to Kor’gall, Trunks, had started his own PvP guild up, Feministic Front and we joined that. It was great, we were doing premades, having fun, I was enjoying WoW, I had an amazing girlfriend, I was on top of the world.
Then we broke up.
Now, I love StarCraft so I’d bought StarCraft 2 but I stopped playing this because of my girlfriend. She didn’t ask me to, but it was something she said one day about the type of game and not liking it and the reason behind it. I felt I shouldn’t play it, so I didn’t. Me playing it didn’t bother her, but I wanted to go into 2v2 with her on it and she was never going to play it and then other reasons on top that I’d decided on, I just stopped.
You might recall I also said I liked Diablo, played them all. Diablo 3 will be released at some point, me and the girlfriend were planning to get totally into that. Now we aren’t together I don’t actually want to play it. Well, I do, but I don’t want to without her.
I play WoW, or rather, I did. I cancelled my account when we split up.
I realised at this point, not only had I made WoW only fun with someone special playing it with me, but I’d made all gaming about this other person too. I only wanted to do things with her, it was no fun without her. I didn’t want to play WoW solo when we were together, playing it when we weren’t together was out of the question and a simple server change wouldn’t help me now.
Now, not everyone will fall into this, I could be the only one – but this is my blog and I still have no idea how you found it and I’m allowed to blog about what the hell I want! However gaming for me is quite probably now ruined. This is not my girlfriends fault, not at all, but without her in my life (or possibly someone else) I don’t want to do it anymore.
Will this change over time? Maybe, who knows. We only split up less than a week ago and she was my world. I had plans to propose. I knew when, how and where I was going to do it, and it was a special date in a place with special meaning to both of us, I had a few of options for this and which one I took depended on a few factors closer to the time. Regardless, I had it all planned out. To say my world is totally upside down now without going into details is an understatement. My world is falling apart and I am with it in many ways.
So why am I writing this post? I don’t know. As far as I know, no one will ever read this. I guess I’m using my blog as my open diary. I’m sure when I started writing this there was more of a point to it but I lost my way and if anyone ever reads this, I probably sent them to sleep far before the end of it. I’ll maybe revise this post at some point. Who knows.
Now, how did you find my blog?